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Автор	Тема: На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику..
NO. Сообщений: 10700	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 14 фев 10 12:37 Семиотика [Ответ][Цитата]
Vestnik Сообщений: 82	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 15 фев 10 1:51 Спасибо за наводки. Цитата: Автор: Capt.Drew А кто такой Хомский? :D Да тот самый. Лингвист-философ, я так считаю, которого мне уже порекомендовали "для начала". Но мне нужно что-то более прикладное. Те ссылки которые вы дали, то что нужно - буду вникать. ====== Семиотику тоже нашел. Столько интересного! [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 15 фев 10 3:10 Понимаете вы смахиваете на Буратино пришедшего к Тартилле за Золотым Ключиком.. Цена вопроса 5 лимонов уёв Интеллектуальной проперти.. И Гугл.. и Яххо.. и ИБМ.. и Амазон и еБей пытаются сделать хоть что-то.. но мордой не вышли.. Тысячи буратин наняты за слюнявую канфекту с расчётом что кто-то сдуру Найдёт решение.. А честно заплатить 5 лимонов на содержание Дома-Музея Доктора Дрю - дурных нэма ! [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 20 фев 10 22:29 20-FEB-2010-A... " The Society of Mind " by Marvin Minsky: Price: $13.26 Product Details: Paperback: 336 pages Publisher: Simon & Schuster; Pages Bent edition (March 15, 1988) Language: English ISBN-10: 0671657135 ISBN-13: 978-0671657130 Product Dimensions: 10.9 x 8.5 x 0.8 inches Shipping Weight: 1.7 pounds ( http://www.amazon.com/Society-Mind-Marvin-Minsky/dp/0671657135/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img 51-MAR-1998) Editorial Reviews: Amazon.com Review: For some artificial intelligence researchers, Minsky's book is too far removed from hard science to be useful. For others, the high-level approach of The Society of Mind makes it a gold mine of ideas waiting to be implemented. The author, one of the undisputed fathers of the discipline of AI, sets out to provide an abstract model of how the human mind really works. His thesis is that our minds consist of a huge aggregation of tiny mini-minds or agents that have evolved to perform highly specific tasks. Most of these agents lack the attributes we think of as intelligence and are severely limited in their ability to intercommunicate. Yet rational thought, feeling, and purposeful action result from the interaction of these basic components. Minsky's theory does not suggest a specific implementation for building intelligent machines. Still, this book may prove to be one of the most influential for the future of AI. From Publishers Weekly: Minsky, cofounder of MIT's Artificial Intelligence Lab, is a charter member of the community of AI pioneers committed to understanding the workings of the human mind and mimicking its processes by computer. Here he takes his place as this generation's Buckminster Fullera revered seminal thinker whose depth and originality sometimes place him out of reach for many. But Minsky's difference is his style: he writes aphoristically, with wit and precision, and makes the most of his perception that the mind learns by images, which perform as agents that connect, interact and even "censor" in a staggeringly subtle "society" of microprocedures. This holistic view of the mind's learning stages is the culmination of Minsky's study, and its insights into the developing world of computers-as-machines are matched by paradoxically intuitive glimpses of the growth of a sense of "self" through introspection, short- and long-term memory, mind-frames utilizing pictures and language. Minsky's creative terminology for freshly perceived mental processes is a major contribution to the future of mind-science. Illustrated. Major ad/promo; Macmillan Book Club alternate. Copyright 1986 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 20 фев 10 22:37 20-FEB-2010-B... The Emotion Machine: Commonsense Thinking, Artificial Intelligence, and the Future of the Human Mind by Marvin Minsky, $11.21 Product Details: Paperback: 400 pages, Publisher: Simon & Schuster (November 13, 2007) Language: English ISBN-10: 0743276647 ISBN-13: 978-0743276641 Editorial Reviews: --- From Publishers Weekly: Twenty years after The Society of Mind, where he introduced the concept that "minds are what brains do," Minsky probes deeper into the question of natural intelligence. Don't look for simple explanations: he believes "we need to find more complicated ways to explain our most familiar mental events"; we need to break our thought processes down into the most precise steps possible. In fact, in order to truly understand the human mind, Minsky suggests, we'll probably need to reverse-engineer a machine that can replicate those functions so we can study it. Thus, he rejects the idea of consciousness as a unitary "Self" in favor of "a decentralized cloud" of more than 20 distinct mental processes. In this view, emotional states like love and shame are not the opposite of rational cogitation; both, Minsky says, are ways of thinking. This is not a book to be read casually; Minsky builds his argument with constant reference to earlier and later sections, imagining objections from a variety of philosophical positions and refuting them. A steady stream of diagrams helps clarify matters, but readers will be forced to dig for the "aha!" moments: they're worth the effort. 100 b&w illus. (Nov. 7) --- From The Washington Post: Writers about the human mind generally fall into three camps: philosophers, psychologists and others who weave elaborate theories about the mind without any reference to the brain; neuroscientists who attempt to link mind matters with brain states; and, finally, members of the computer science and artificial intelligence (AI) communities who suggest that it's possible to replicate human thinking in a machine. Marvin Minsky, professor of electrical engineering and computer science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and an early pioneer in developing artificial intelligence, is an eminent denizen of the third camp. In The Emotion Machine, Minsky aims to find "more complex ways to depict mental events that seem simple at first." He brilliantly achieves this goal when he suggests that consciousness remains unexplained because it is "one of those suitcase-like words that we use for many types of processes, and for different kinds of purposes." Since consciousness is not a unity but involves separate mental components, "there is little to gain from wondering what consciousness 'is' -- because that word includes too much for us to deal with all at once." Minsky does a marvelous job parsing other complicated mental activities into simpler elements. He discusses such topics as common sense, thinking and the self and -- most important for this book -- emotional states, which are "not especially different from the processes that we call 'thinking.' " But he is less effective in relating these emotional functions to what's going on in the brain. Minsky says his book "does not discuss most current beliefs about how our brains work" because our knowledge about the brain soon becomes outdated. But then how can one draw meaningful correlations between brains and machines? Equally unsettling, several of his points about the brain are not in line with current knowledge. For instance, it's not true, as Minsky claims, that "after certain major stages of growth in the brain, many new cells are later destroyed by 'post-editing' processes that evolved to delete some types of connections." Actually, the loss of cells results from passive disuse -- use it or lose it -- rather than active deletion. Some of his other statements may be correct, but I wonder how one would go about proving them: "I suspect that large parts of our brains work mainly to correct mistakes that other parts make -- and this is surely one reason why the subject of human psychology has become so hard." This quirky and provocative assertion is based on the fact that "many computer systems eventually become so ponderous that their further development stops, because their programmers can no longer keep track of what all the previous programmers did." This example, along with others throughout the book, assumes that computers and brains operate on similar principles. But testing that assumption, according to Minsky, isn't likely to be successful any time soon: "We learn more such details about the brain every week -- but we still do not yet know enough to simulate even a spider or snake." Given the limited state of our current knowledge, is it unreasonable to question the appropriateness of a machine model for human emotion? Minsky proposed many of his ideas linking neuroscience with AI in his 1986 book, The Society of Mind. But in The Emotion Machine, he does not always account for more recent advances in our understanding of neurons (nerve cells). Of the 1.1 trillion cells in the human brain, only 100 billion are neurons, leaving an enormous number of cells that, neuroscientists are convinced, must be important in information transfer. Moreover, anatomical interaction of neurons highlights only one aspect of brain functioning. Equally important are alterations of the brain's chemical messengers, the neurotransmitters, along with changes in local and distributed electrical fields. A successful AI model of the mind must consider these features, as well. Finally, applying to the brain such vague, ill-defined terms as "resources" doesn't adequately capture the brain's dynamism. Minsky admits as much, saying he can't identify these "resources" because "research on this is advancing so quickly that any conclusion one might make today could be outdated in just a few weeks." In the final analysis, technical advances may offer our best hope when it comes to explaining how our minds work. Many states of mind -- fear, joy, desire -- can now be shown through brain imaging techniques. This would be closer to an "explanation" for the mind, it seems to me, than anything offered by Minksy's employment of such obscure terms as "imprimers," "trans-frames," "K-lines," "credit assignments" and "micronemes," which have no agreed-on scientific meaning and seem, as Minsky concedes, "hopelessly vague." Despite these reservations, The Emotion Machine rewards careful reading. You'll learn a lot about how your mind works, even if you won't be all that much wiser about what is actually going on within your brain. [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 20 фев 10 22:52 20-FEB-2010-C... Moral Machines: Teaching Robots Right from Wrong (Author) Colin Allen, (Author) Wendell Wallach [/b] Product Details: Hardcover: 288 pages, Publisher: Oxford University Press, USA (November 19, 2008), Language: English, ISBN-10: 0195374045 ISBN-13: 978-0195374049 Editorial Reviews: --- Review: "An invaluable guide to avoiding the stuff of science-fiction nightmares."--John Gilby, Times Higher Education; "Moral Machines is a fine introduction to the emerging field of robot ethics. There is much here that will interest ethicists, philosophers, cognitive scientists, and roboticists." Peter Danielson, Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews: "Written with an abundance of examples and lessons learned, scenarios of incidents that may happen, and elaborate discussions on existing artificial agents on the cutting edge of research/practice, Moral Machines goes beyond what is known as computer ethics into what will soon be called the discipline of machine morality. Highly recommended."--G. Trajkovski, CHOICE "the book does succeed in making the essential point that the phrase 'moral machine' is not an oxymoron. It also provides a window onto an area of research with which psychologists are unlikely to be familiar and one from which, at some point, we may be able to learn quite a lot."--PsycCRITIQUES "In a single, thought-provoking volume, the authors not only introduce machine ethics, but also an inquiry that penetrates to the deepest foundations of ethics. The conscientious reader will, no doubt, find many challenging ideas here that will require a reassessment of her own beliefs, making this text a "must read" among recent books in philosophy and, more specifically, applied ethics."--Tony Beavers, Ethics and Information Technology When machines go it alone, accountability disappears - and with it the rule of law. Which is why philosophers Wendall Wallach and Colin Allen are asking how we can persuade robots to do the right thing. The result, in their seminal...book Moral Machines, makes clear just how far we have to go. Stephen Cave, Financial Times [an] important book... The arguments are approaches openly and clearly, with due deference to the very wide readership that this title deserves to attract... a valuable crossover resource. John Gilbery, Times Higher Education In contrast to Hollywood's fantasies of intelligent but malignaant doom machines and researchers' speculations about machine-based transcendence, Moral Machines is modest, accurate and informative...the book covers a wide range of approaches, organizing current research into top-down application of traditional ethical theories, bottom-up evolutionary or learning strategies, and work on implementing emotions in computers. Peter Danielson, NATURE So in a single thought-provoking volume, the authors not only introduce machine ethics, but also an inquiry which penetrates to the deepest foundations of ethics. The conscientious reader will no doubt find many challenging ideas here that will require a reassessment of her own beliefs, making this text a must-read among recent books in philosophy, and specifically in ethics. Dr Anthony F. Beavers, Philosophy Now Product Description: Computers are already approving financial transactions, controlling electrical supplies, and driving trains. Soon, service robots will be taking care of the elderly in their homes, and military robots will have their own targeting and firing protocols. Colin Allen and Wendell Wallach argue that as robots take on more and more responsibility, they must be programmed with moral decision-making abilities, for our own safety. Taking a fast paced tour through the latest thinking about philosophical ethics and artificial intelligence, the authors argue that even if full moral agency for machines is a long way off, it is already necessary to start building a kind of functional morality, in which artificial moral agents have some basic ethical sensitivity. But the standard ethical theories don't seem adequate, and more socially engaged and engaging robots will be needed. As the authors show, the quest to build machines that are capable of telling right from wrong has begun. Moral Machines is the first book to examine the challenge of building artificial moral agents, probing deeply into the nature of human decision making and ethics. [Ответ][Цитата]
Aleksandr1 Сообщений: 2969	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 9:40 Цитата: Автор: Capt.Drew А честно заплатить 5 лимонов на содержание Дома-Музея Доктора Дрю - дурных нэма ! Где то за что заплатить? Хотя бы в самом общем виде. Без главного секрета. Если снова над миром грянет гром Небо вспыхнет огнем Вы нам только шепните Мы на помощь придем [Ответ][Цитата]
Vestnik Сообщений: 82	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 15:40 Хехе. Писал писал, а в результате - "мы до сих пор еще далеки от того, чтобы создать модель, хотя бы паука или змеи". Я, наверное, чего-то не понимаю. Ведь уже в следующей статье читаем что роботы уже вот вот, будут заботиться о пожилых людях... Что-то странное происходит. В одних источниках утверждают что сильный ИИ готов практически, а в других - что разработчики очень далеки от создания хотя бы таракана. И такое встречаю повсеместно. Объясните. [Ответ][Цитата]
Aleksandr1 Сообщений: 2969	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 16:18 Цитата: Автор: Vestnik Хехе. Писал писал, а в результате - "мы до сих пор еще далеки от того, чтобы создать модель, хотя бы паука или змеи". А вы что с моей моделью не знакомы ? Есть модель всего. Уж про нервную систему паука и не говорю. Человека любого, с его бессмертной душой. [Ответ][Цитата]
Welkin Сообщений: 50	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 21:14 Цитата: Автор: Aleksandr1 А вы что с моей моделью не знакомы ? Есть модель всего. Уж про нервную систему паука и не говорю. Человека любого, с его бессмертной душой. Александр, подскажите, а где можно поподробнее про вашу модель почитать? [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 22:20 21-FEB-2010-A Моника Спивак: "Мозг отправьте по адресу..." ( http://fictionbook.ru/author/monika_spivak/mozg_otpravte_po_adresu/read_online.html?page=1 2009) Аннотация: В книге историка литературы и искусства Моники Спивак рассказывается о фантасмагорическом проекте сталинской эпохи – Московском институте мозга. Институт занимался посмертной диагностикой гениальности и обладал правом изымать мозг знаменитых людей для вечного хранения в специально созданном Пантеоне. Наряду с собственно биологическими исследованиями там проводилось также всестороннее изучение личности тех, чей мозг пополнил коллекцию. В книге, являющейся вторым, дополненным, изданием (первое вышло в издательстве «Аграф» в 2001 г.), представлены ответы Н.К. Крупской на анкету Института мозга, а также развернутые портреты трех писателей, удостоенных чести оказаться в Пантеоне: Владимира Маяковского, Андрея Белого и Эдуарда Багрицкого. «Психологические портреты», выполненные под руководством крупного российского ученого, профессора Института мозга Г.И. Полякова, публикуются по машинописям, хранящимся в Государственном музее А.С. Пушкина (отдел «Мемориальная квартира Андрея Белого»). FROM DREW: Не совсем "наша" книжка, но начало и окончание полезно пролистать [Ответ][Цитата]
Vestnik Сообщений: 82	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 23:40 Цитата: Автор: Aleksandr1 А вы что с моей моделью не знакомы ? Есть модель всего. Уж про нервную систему паука и не говорю. Человека любого, с его бессмертной душой. Что-то попахивает это сказками. Но заинтересовало. Где можно ознакомиться? [Ответ][Цитата]
Capt.Drew Сообщений: 4179	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 21 фев 10 23:59 Алекс1 - шутит наd Теориями НПоска, Редозубова, и Хоукинса.. но это у него пройдет [Ответ][Цитата]
Aleksandr1 Сообщений: 2969	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 22 фев 10 8:28 Цитата: Автор: Capt.Drew Алекс1 - шутит наd Теориями НПоска, Редозубова, и Хоукинса.. но это у него пройдет А еще над Теориями Шамиса, Ярославского и Анохина. [Ответ][Цитата]
Aleksandr1 Сообщений: 2969	На: Ai Drew: Читаем-Обсуждаем :: Ии-книги, Учебники, Статьи ии Фантастику.. Добавлено: 22 фев 10 8:57 Цитата: Автор: Welkin Александр, подскажите, а где можно поподробнее про вашу модель почитать? http://ai.obrazec.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1578&start=0 Модель зрительно на первый взгляд проста - два квадратика соединенных стрелочками развиваются в 4-е квадратика соединенных стрелочками. Но эту модель сумел осилить только один из 60 прочитавших.Кроме способностей требуется еще и начальная подготовка соответствующая. [Ответ][Цитата]
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